4 months, 4321 miles and 92 gallons with my 2008 Honda Civic Hybrid

I wrote about buying a 2008 Honda Civic Hybrid – my first new car in 21 years – a little over 4 months ago. My appreciation for the car has been growing over time, and I wanted to share some of the insights and experiences that have unfolded during this extended "break-in" period.

First of all, as I'd noted in my earlier post, fuel efficiency was a primary motivation in purchasing this car. Marco, the salesperson at Honda Auto Center in Bellevue who sold me the car, had advised me to ignore the real-time fuel efficiency feedback display and to resist "babying" the car during the first thousand miles. I varied the speed regularly, ran the car through most of the range of RPMs (without approaching too close to the "red line" mark), and avoided harsh stops and starts as much as possible.

50 mpg in my 2008 Honda Civic HybridMarco had warned me that I might only get 35 miles per gallon during that period, but I got over 40 mpg on that first tank of gas, and was achieving nearly 45 mpg by the end of the first thousand miles. Shortly thereafter, I heard a story on NPR in which a fuel efficiency expert was claiming that the federally mandated 55 mile per hour speed limit that was imposed during the oil crisis of the 1970s really was the ideal speed limit for achieving high fuel economy in most automobiles. So, I experimented with driving at a maximum of 55 miles per hour for one tank of gas, and achieved a high of 50.0 mpg (see photo at the right, taken after driving 455.7 miles at speeds of 55 mph or lower). [Another NPR story reported that, for a short period of time, driving 55 mph in a Honda Civic along a specially engineered stretch of roadway in California with precisely spaced rumble strips achieved a perfect pitch rendition of the William Tell Overture (more details, including videos, can be found on the Honda web site … and, of course, on YouTube … see below).]

While I have found myself staying within posted speed limits more and more regularly as maximizing fuel economy gradually becomes a higher priority than minimizing time to destination(s), there are times when conserving time is still more important than conserving fuel. In any case, at this point, I'm delighted to report that I've averaged 46.8 mpg over the first 4,321 miles, well above the EPA estimates of 41 mpg city / 45 mpg highway. I should note that much of my driving is highway (vs. city) and that I rarely have any passengers or other sources of extra weight in the car … and, of course, it [almost] goes without saying that YMMV.

In addition to the fuel economy, I've discovered other interesting, and mostly positive, features of the 2008 Honda Civic Hybrid. One is what I might call contextual maintenance (as contrasted with scheduled maintenance): instead of being instructed to change the oil at regular intervals based on time or miles driven, this car monitors the quality of the oil and will let me know when I need an oil change. At this point, the instrument panel tells me I'm only 50% of the way to my next (and in this case, first) oil change. I also found out that the Civic Hybrid uses 0W-20 oil, a specification I'd never heard of before … though there is some debate about whether and why 0W-20 oil is required.

I also found out that there is a way to disable the automatic door locking "feature" that was the default setting when I picked up the car. Initially, the car doors would automatically lock every time I drove above 9 mph, but after reading the manual, I discovered that there are three different possible settings, including automatically locking the doors as soon as the car is shifted out of "park" and never automatically locking the doors (the current setting I've selected).

This is the first car I've had with leather seats (as I noted before, it's also my first hybrid … and I suddenly realize it's the first sedan I've ever owned). The seats are generally comfortable, providing good support (at least on short to medium length trips), e.g., the head rest fits neatly into my neck area, unlike airline seats in which the headrests tend to push my head forward. However, I recently drove to Portland, and around 3 hours into what turned into a 4.5 hour drive, I found myself feeling a bit stuff in places. I've driven the Camry back and forth to Corvallis, OR (twice) – a 4.5-hour drive – and never had any noticeable stiffness.

My daughter has driven the car a few times, and pointed out that the post between the front and back doors is rather wide (compared to our 1994 Camry, which she now drives). She does not like the digital speedometer, though I actually prefer it to analog speedometers. She also pointed out that the dashboard is reflected in the window on sunny days (I have the beige interior).

Speaking of colors, the one black mark against the car when I first picked it up was the black wheel well edge guards that were initially installed on the car. When Marco called me shortly after I bought the car to see how I liked it, I told him that was the one thing I really didn't like about the car (every time I approached the car I found myself thinking "if only those wheel well edge guards weren't black"). He immediately arranged for them to be replaced with white wheel well edge guards (actually, they are white door edge guards that can be used in the wheel wells), and I've approached the car happily ever after.

And speaking of protective measures, I also picked up floor mats for the car. After considering various options, including the relatively inexpensive generic mats they sell at auto parts stores, I read a thread on all season floor mats in the 8th Generation Honda Civic Forum, and decided to go with the Honda all season floor mats. They have worked great … and I'm especially glad to have them now that the first snow has fallen this winter.

Another thread on the 2009 Honda Civic in the forum reported that the new model was scheduled to go on sale August 19, which may help explain why there were so few 2008 models left – and why they were being sold at such a high price – when I made my purchase earlier that month. Oh, and speaking of prices, I forgot to note in my earlier post that the Kelley Blue Book suggested retail value of a used 2007 Honda Civic Hybrid (with 12,000 miles) was $23,616 (it's now $22,300) – more than $300 more than the $23,270 MSRP for a new 2008 Honda Civic Hybrid at that time. The current KBB suggested retail value of a used 2008 Honda Civic Hybrid with 4000 miles is $24,100 (a new 2009 Honda Civic Hybrid with leather seats has an MSRP of $25,420). GIven that I paid $26,000 for the car four months ago, the value has not held up quite as well as I'd expected at the time, but given that our investments in the stock market have plunged far more than 7% since August, it would appear that this turned out to be an unexpectedly wise and timely reallocation of portions of our investment portfolio.

In an article appearing in The Seattle Times (originally written for The New York Times) at the beginning of August, "End of the road for the American Dream Car?", Mireya Navarro talks about how the high fuel prices (at that time) were changing perceptions of what constitutes an ideal car for a growing number of drivers. The precipitous plunge in gasoline prices over the past few months – falling 60%, from a high of $4.12 per gallon (average price across the U.S.) the week I bought the car to $1.65 per gallon now – may have resulted in a re-reassessment of that ideal for some (see the chart from GasBuddy below).

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I have to say that the gasoline price plunge has helped me overcome some of the hybrid smugness I had been feeling at first, but given yet another NPR story I heard yesterday on 'peak oil' (reminding me of my introduction to 'peak oil' via The End of Suburbia four years ago), I still feel good about becoming more conservative in this one particular dimension of life.


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5 responses to “4 months, 4321 miles and 92 gallons with my 2008 Honda Civic Hybrid”

  1. Robb Avatar

    Kia ora Joe,
    If all people put as much thought and research into the vehicle they drive, and why the actually drive it perhaps we could invoke real change into this part of our lives that impacts the Earth so much. One day we will, and you are helping to show the way so well done my friend!
    On a different note I wanted to write and wish you and the family a Healthy and Happy Yuletide Season.
    I also need to thank you for your inspiration in starting my blog a little over a year ago. I have just returned from a trip to the South Island where I was picked up at the airport by a man whom I had only connected with here, and proceeded to meet a few other fellow bloggers and other simply wonderful people, while also enjoying some time in one of the most beautiful places on Earth. Just so validating to this method of connecting with people all over the world. Very cool. Check out my post if you are interested.
    Another note, I am picking up Jeff Kjos in Wellington on New Years Eve, and we are heading into the mountains for 5 days. He and Sara, and Zoe, are here traveling down south with his brother in law who lives in Christchurch. Looking forward to connecting with Jeff again, and I am sure we will find something to toast you with!
    So Joe, thank you for your place here, you have helped start a ripple literally around the world! Happy Yuletide.
    Rangimarie,
    Robb

  2. Joe McCarthy Avatar

    Robb,
    Thanks for the note. I assure you that the inspiration is mutual – I always enjoy reading the insights and experiences you share on your blog (including your recent post on Hononga (Connection)).
    I was delighted to read [further] about the people – fellow adventurers and journeymen (journeypeople?) – with whom you’ve connected through your blog. I, too, have enjoyed connecting with people offline after connecting with them online (I’m reminded, in particular, of connecting with Dan Oestreich in the context of honor and consciousness on Martin Luther King Day almost three years ago). And, of course, I am grateful that we have been able to reconnect through the blogosphere.
    I hope you enjoy your time with Jeff, Sara and Zoe – their visit here 5 years ago led to one of the most adventurous expeditions we’ve undertaken (camping at Second Beach in Olympic National Park … probably among the tamest adventures they’ve undertaken, but it was the first time we’d camped where we had to hike more than a few hundred feet from our car).
    And, I hope that you, your family and friends (mutual and otherwise) enjoy a happy holiday season!
    Joe.

  3. Petra Soderling Avatar

    Hi Joe,
    congratulations and welcome to the Hybrid Club ๐Ÿ˜‰
    I have a post on hybrid from last summer when I got my Toyota Prius. It’s funny that we both would mention leather seats as one of the top items on these cars. Soooo nice….
    http://blog.petras.mobi/2008/05/19/prius.aspx
    I’ve loved the Prius and also saved a lot of money on reduced gas consumption. I’m too lazy to do the math, but I can tell you that I consume 4,7 liters per kilometer on average, and that fuel price in Finland is currently around 1,20 euros. A friend’s Volvo drinks around 8 liters per km, so driving a hybrid is good savings.
    The only fallback here in Helsinki is that during the cold winter I tend to heat the car a lot which consumes gas. With temperature around -5 Celsius lately, the average consumption has been 5,0 or 5,1 liters per kilometer. But hey, I can’t let those nice beige leather seats freeze stiff and potentially break!
    Enjoy your Honda ๐Ÿ™‚

  4. Joe McCarthy Avatar

    Petra: nice to read from you!
    I’m not surprised we’ve discovered yet another shared area of interest and action, even though there are minor differences in the details (a black Prius vs. a white Honda Civic).
    I’ve noticed that my fuel efficiency has been hovering around 43-44 mpg during the last two tankfuls of gas, and your note leads me to wonder if the colder weather over the past two months (generally hovering between 0C and 7C) – and my increased use of the heater (and defroster with air conditioning) – explains this decrease in efficiency.
    As I recall, fuel in Finland is priced per liter, rather than per gallon, so at the current exchange rate, the relative cost of fuel there is US$5.81 per gallon. In the U.S., average gasoline prices bottomed out shortly after I posted my blog entry at around $1.60 per gallon (0.42 euros per liter), and have climbed back up to $1.88 (0.50 euros per liter), though that’s still about 2.5 times less expensive than in Finland. So relatively speaking, you’re saving a lot more money than I am at this point, though we can both continue to enjoy other dimensions of the cars … including the seats.
    Having done some of this math, I have a quick question on your calculations of fuel efficiency for the Prius: when I convert 4.7 liters per kilometer to U.S. measurements, I get 0.496 miles per gallon, which is about 100 times less efficient than I would have expected for a Prius. Could it be 4.7 centiliters (0.047 liters) per kilometer, or 4.7 liters per 100 km?
    Thanks for enlarging – and further internationalizing – the discussion here!

  5. Petra Soderling Avatar

    Thanks for doing the match Joe ๐Ÿ˜‰ Indeed it was good that I didn’t even try to figure it out, as I managed to make a basic mistake even in my original numbers. You are right, the consumption I meant was 4,7 liters per 100 km. This is the typical way to announce consumption in metric system.
    I am also cutting back driving altogether, and work from home 2-3 days a week. Another way for me to save fuel – and the environment – is to take the dog with me in the car when I can. She is an arctic Swedish Elk hound and doesn’t like warm, but does love being in a car. This way I am not tempted to turn the heater on too high, and both of us can enjoy a nice cool drive. Handy!